a big HI with bugs and wishes

[Harry]

hello @all,

the "OOBE" with VOMP was very positive -
it's a quality product already!

i'd like to point out these possible bugs and wishes:

- the main-menu clock doesn't get updated

- pressing the green button and selecting "Standby" apparently doesn't
  trigger the same event.
  [my telly switches on and off with the SCART signal. however, it only
  stays off if i select "Standby". with the green button the telly turns
  off and then immediately back on again (while the MVP stays off)]

- a progress bar indicating how far a running (live TV) programme has advanced
  would be _very_ nice (similar to this one
  mvpmc.sourceforge.net/images/myth_osd.jpg but doesnt need to be alpha blended)

- EPG info is not scrollable if text doesn't fit into the box

- EPG info should include current time

- changing the channel via buttons 0-9 should accept one, two (timeout
  controlled) and three digit entries


that's all for now.
i hope i'm not being presumptuous by posting this.

cheers
Harry

[Chris]

Hi Harry, I am thinking that you might like the next version of VOMP....

- the main-menu clock doesn't get updated

- EPG info should include current time

- changing the channel via buttons 0-9 should accept one, two (timeout
controlled) and three digit entries

Done, done and done. Currently it's in CVS only, but all will be in the next dongle.

- pressing the green button and selecting "Standby" apparently doesn't
trigger the same event.
[my telly switches on and off with the SCART signal. however, it only
stays off if i select "Standby". with the green button the telly turns
off and then immediately back on again (while the MVP stays off)]

Unfortunately this is really odd. Both of these ways of invoking standby run the same piece of code that shuts off the video signal. I have no idea at the moment how it could work with one but not the other.

- a progress bar indicating how far a running (live TV) programme has advanced
would be _very_ nice (similar to this one
mvpmc.sourceforge.net/images/myth_osd.jpg but doesnt need to be alpha blended)

I have been planning this for recorded programmes but I hadn't thought about live. Maybe this could be done...

- EPG info is not scrollable if text doesn't fit into the box

Do you mean the programme summary? If so then this is listed as a bug against VOMP already, I will get around to this at some point.

that's all for now.
i hope i'm not being presumptuous by posting this.

cheers
Harry

Not at all. The more discussion the better.

Chris

[Schnurps]

- a progress bar indicating how far a running (live TV) programme has advanced
would be _very_ nice (similar to this one
mvpmc.sourceforge.net/images/myth_osd.jpg but doesnt need to be alpha blended)

I have been planning this for recorded programmes but I hadn't thought about live. Maybe this could be done...

What function should this progress bar have in live tv?
a) progress of the actual programme (e.g. 20/45 mins). -> My suggestion is to put that information into the epg-box. (cp. http://www.vdrskins.org/vdrskins/displayimage.php?album=41&pos=1 - posted a while ago here in the forum)

b) in the future a progress bar for the timeshift-buffer (how far behind live-tv?)

Just my thoughts to that.
Such a progress bar would be nice, but I suppose there are more important things to do first.
It is really fantastic to persecute the progress and improvement of VOMP. :-)
Thanks Chris!!! 

Schnurps

[Harry]

[...]
Done, done and done. Currently it's in CVS only, but all will be in the next dongle.

thanks a lot!
i've already taken a look at the CVS repository and saw that there had been
made recent changes.
however... compiling a dongle is not that trivial (or so it seems).

[...sorry for ugly snipping...]

Unfortunately this is really odd. Both of these ways of invoking standby run the same piece of code that shuts off the video signal. I have no idea at the moment how it could work with one but not the other.

peculiar.
however.. it's not that important.

- a progress bar indicating how far a running (live TV) programme has advanced
would be _very_ nice (similar to this one
mvpmc.sourceforge.net/images/myth_osd.jpg but doesnt need to be alpha blended)

I have been planning this for recorded programmes but I hadn't thought about live. Maybe this could be done...

hehe. i have this feature on my HUMAX DVB-S receiver and have to say this
is _such_ a cool feature.

- EPG info is not scrollable if text doesn't fit into the box

Do you mean the programme summary? If so then this is listed as a bug against VOMP already, I will get around to this at some point.

oops.. yes. you're right.

@Schnurps
yes... (@progress bar) that's exaclty what i had in mind.

cheers
Harry

[davep]

A small problem with the current CVS. Tuning to a channel which is not currently transmitting, the MVP locks up and does not respond to any keys on the remote - a power-cycle is necessary to regain control. The previous version would return to the menu after a few seconds when the 'back' key was pressed.

[Chris]

Dave: You are using UK freeview? What channel did you try to tune to and at what time? I have looked through my channels at the moment and I can't find any that are totally off, I just get other channels that share the same space.

I would expect some problems like this at the moment, I have made big changes to the way the program does things so the odd lock up doesn't surprise me. I managed to lock it up on the main menu the other night, unfortunately I have no idea how I did it!

[davep]

The most recent was "ITV News". OK it turns out I had two lines for that channel in my channels.conf and selected the wrong one - PIDs for that line were 2850, 2851 instead of 550, 551. The other was channel 302 around mid-day before the snooker started.

[Schnurps]

I have the same problem with Dongle 16.
The German Music-Channels "Viva" and "Vivaplus" seems to be not reachable via DVB-S at the moment, and I have to power down the MVP to get it working again after accessing one of those channels.
I think the same is with our "Kinderkanal" in the night. (not completely sure).
Is it possible to check this and to respond with this "Chanal not reachable"-Box?

Code Select Expand

VIVA:12670:v:S19.2E:22000:309:310:311:0:12732:0:0:0
VIVA PLUS:12552:v:S19.2E:22000:171:172:179:0:12120:0:0:0

Schnurps

[Chris]

I think I have found this bug now. It seems that because VDR initially claimed that it could provide the channel, vomp was happy to sit in a loop of continuing to request the data. Current CVS code now stops and displays the "channel unavailable" message.

[davep]

I think I have found this bug now. It seems that because VDR initially claimed that it could provide the channel, vomp was happy to sit in a loop of continuing to request the data. Current CVS code now stops and displays the "channel unavailable" message.

Yes that works fine now, thanks.

[Harry]

hi again!

is it possible to pass the data that is sent during VBI to the telly so one
can browse teletext?

cheers
Harry

[Chris]

I don't think VBI data exists for digital TV ?

[Harry]

it does.
how else would i get teletext over a "normal" dvb-s receiver? *g*

cheers
H

[Chris]

Old style black screen with 1980s (?) look text and blocky graphics?

[Harry]

i see.
you don't think it would be worth implementing.
well... it was only a question. *g*

cheers
Harry